Wednesday, March 7, 2012

Push Me - Pull You : The Push-Pull Cycle


The Push-Pull cycle in Borderline Personality Disorder is complicated. There’s a million different variables that lead into and cause various episodes of this; love, fear, abandonment, dissociation, object constancy, splitting, etc. I’ve talked about the push-pull cycle, mentioned aspects of it in various places, but I don’t believe I’ve tried to pull it all together in one place. So let’s do that.

Push-Pull - is a chronic pattern of sabotaging and re-establishing closeness in a relationship without apparent cause or reason. It’s that back and forth feeling of wanting to be close to someone, letting them into a more intimate and vulnerable position in our life, being suffocated, or becoming afraid of that vulnerability, needing to escape [potentially] being hurt, fearing the loss, acting on that fear, and then desperately trying to get that person back from fear of that abandonment, often by apologizing profusely and doing everything we can to be perfect for them again. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

Often for me this breaks down to two key factors; wanting to be intimately close to someone, and fear of being hurt/abandoned by them at the same time. The closer you allow someone to get to you, the more vulnerable you become to the reality that they are now in a position to hurt you more than other people. If you keep people at a distance you have a safety zone, an emotional buffer. But this doesn’t allow for true intimacy.

It’s that whole threat of intimacy. I want to be close, but I want to be safe too. The closer someone gets, the more able they are to hurt me. So someone gets too close, I push away. Half the time I think it’s for their own good! I know my issues. I’ve ruminated on the millions of possibilities that could happen if someone gets close enough to see the “real me”. The illusion of perfection will be shattered in the tarnished portrait of the bad person I really am. For as much as I want love, want to love, I don’t always believe I deserve it because I know how much has happened to me, everything I’ve done, all my baggage is too much to place on another person. What right do I have to unload all of this onto someone? So pushing away really is for their own good after all. Of course I’m rationalizing, but it’s true to me regardless. But then I’m left alone, I get lonely, and I miss the closeness that was there, and I want to pull back.

For the most part I think it’s a fear response. Fear that we will be left, that we aren’t worthy of being loved, that people are lying and trying to use us… an endless list of other things. We need reassurance and it takes a lot of energy to show us that. Unfortunately it’s a part of our nature to need this. It’s also a part of our nature to feel smothered by it, push it away, fear the loss of it, frantically try to retrieve it, and repeat the cycle endlessly, for as long as someone will let us.

From my article on Baiting and Picking Fights:
There’s something else though. An element of, if the other person will allow me to push, stay with me through the hurtful things I do, it ‘proves’ that they won’t abandon me. The more we can push away, the more baits and barbs we can throw, the more fights we can pick, the longer they show that they’ll tolerate it or try to work it out with us, the more we can believe that they mean what they say and aren’t trying to deceive us … If we can make someone we care for SO ANGRY, they’ll either prove us right, or prove us wrong. Either way we’ll know something for sure, and it stops (momentarily) the constant second guessing going on in our heads. Believing someone, trusting someone… I know I’ve been hurt so badly that I can never fully do this. That doesn’t mean I don’t want it. I just have to test the fences to be sure.

I think what triggers unstable behavior in relationships is the magnitude of intimacy. The closer the relationship, the more invested we are, the more frightening the possibility of it ending becomes. Funny, that this is almost always a self-fulfilling prophecy. We become frightened something will happen, we act in ways to push people away, to distance ourselves from them, before they can hurt us, and this very act is what starts the downward spiral into the destruction of the relationship. It sounds clean cut when you look at it like that, but it never is.



The pushing away is gradual. Often we don’t even recognize the things we do that manifest as pushing people away. Our thoughts and actions seem quite rational to our traumatized mind. No one sees it coming, not even us most of the time.

Hypersensitive to feeling trapped! This is one of the biggest triggers that makes me push away in relationships. It’s coupled by the sensation of being smothered. Boring-Ex smothered me. He’d coddle me. I would see him and I would have no room to express myself, be myself, I would lose myself because he would criticize when I did express myself. His personality was so overbearing that I could feel the air being slowly sucked out of my lungs whenever I was near him. I didn’t feel like I could be me, and the only way I knew to reestablish that was to eliminate the problem that created this deficit; the relationship. I did try talking to him about these things, but he wasn’t the kind to compromise.

That’s not to say that everything that goes on is purely in our own minds and created by our fears. Things are often brought about by how the other person treats us. I’ll do so much for people, pull people close, meet their needs and demands, and then eventually I’ll flip. I’ll be completely overwhelmed by what someone else wants when it’s not what I want. This often happens because I’ll take on so much responsibility for “our happiness” that I don’t express what I need in a constructive way. Instead, I’ll feel like I’m losing my sense of Self to their needs, not my own, that what I’ve just been doing is now too much, being taken advantage of, a demand instead of a desire, expected not appreciated and I’ll have to Push away to regain control of my own situation. It’s not quite the same as the traditional Push-Pull explanation, but the sentiments match up. It inspires feelings of resentment and resistance coupled with the borderline flipside desire to not be abandoned and needing approval. Can’t be too aggressive otherwise we’ll push people away irrevocably, can’t be too passive and just let things slide because then we’re just being taken advantage of and the resentment builds to explosion.  

A Non may have done nothing wrong, they may have unintentionally triggered us, or they may be someone that we’re afraid to get too close to because we can see the potential for an intimate relationship. Seeing the potential doesn’t mean we’re prepared to deal with it though. For me, and for many with BPD, there is a lot of abuse, a lot of hurt, a lot of pain in our past, and each new relationship is an opportunity to repeat that process. We have to move slow, emotionally. I often move fast physically to stave off the emotional intimacy that I really need. When I sense things getting too close, closer than I prepared to handle, I need to reestablish a safe zone, I push back. Sometimes this just means taking some space, sometimes it manifests as baiting and picking fights, sometimes it means dropping off the radar completely until I’m ready to rejoin humanity. What I want is to be close, but not too close. I can’t figure out how to do this without pushing away and pulling closer. Allowing someone in, and then forcing them back out.

How do you cultivate trust when you’ve been so wounded? How do you cultivate trust when you don’t actually know how to trust?
Finally, this also happens when we plain just don’t want to be with someone anymore. I’m not going to lie. This is exactly what happened with Boring-Ex. I wasn’t attracted to him when we were together. The only time I was attracted to him was when we were breaking up. I absolutely believe this was because I was more afraid of The Loss and not necessarily the loss of him.  So I would pull him back to me, despite the fact that I knew deep down that I didn’t really want to be with him. It still FELT like I did. In the moment I absolutely believed I needed to be with him. It was the fear of that loss that triggered my need to pull him back to me though.
The Push-Pull cycle is insidious. It sneaks up on you. Neither person may notice it at first because it begins so small. Only once it escalates do you really realize what is happening.

65 comments:

  1. I think the fact that you want intimacy at all is a good step in the right direction. I have trouble even really wanting to get that close to anyone. It's a nice idea and all I guess, but.... I dunno. it's like I can't have that closeness with someone unless I can somehow control their mind/thoughts and actions all the time, which is obviously impossible.

    As for trust?..... :/

    I think you're asking the right questions, though; and questioning the thought processes sometimes that hold you back.

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  2. Another perfectly timed blog entry, Haven. Last night I broke up with my friend. Ive been doing push/pull with him (he does it with me too) for the last few weeks and last night I snapped. I told him he wasnt being fair to me, he didnt love me enough to be my boyfriend, he just wants a glorified fuckbuddy and Im done with it.

    Its hard for me, because I cant tell when I am standing up for myself and when I am being overdemanding and unreasonable. I think its reasonable that I would want us to be making some forward progress after 8 months, and not him just using me for sex. He doesnt see it that way. He's all "different love" and he cares about me, just like he cares about the other women he fucks.

    Ive got to work on me. I cant be involved with someone who wont even commit to me in a non-monogamous fashion. It is killing what little self esteem I have.

    I was hoping when I pushed him away last night he would step up, but he didnt. So now I have to let him go :(

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    1. Oh man that sucks. Or maybe it's for the best that you finally snapped. The cycle is often more vicious than the actual ending of the relationships.

      It sounds like you've put up with too much in this relationship so far and you're not being unreasonable.

      There's never fault in needing to work on you. You deserve someone that holds you up and makes you feel good, not someone that fucks with your head and destroys your self esteem.

      It'll probably be rough for a bit but you can get through it.

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    2. Sarah

      I hear you. I'm only on this site trying to understand the push/pull. I can tell you as a "non", you are not over-reacting. By 8 months, most men are sharing their long term relationship goals.

      If he can't even be exclusive with you then you dont sleep with him. You need to roll back girl and go completely NO CONTACT. This idiot is playing you and humans will expend the least amount of energy possible for the benefits...would you pay $20 for something you could pay $2 for. His personality is almost impossible to change until he is ready. No perfect woman is going to make him change, yes yes all of us want to be the exception and tame him into being loving and committed but that only happens when HIS time is ready for that...not how wonderful the woman is....the woman who makes him change just happens to turn up at the right time...if you're thinking of hanging around incase he spontaneously combusts from a cockroach, to a frog to a prince (thanks Baggage Claim website for that quote), then you're dreaming girl

      Power up my friend....get rid of him and make the next guy value you...no sex until he is exclusive...you are worth more than casual.

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  3. Great post Haven, I agree with Sarah. Nicely timed.

    I'm the effing champ of push/pull.

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  4. Information and education are the key. Some people are well worth fighting through the Push/Pull battle. Haven, thanks for the info & the education. The Champ isn't so bad. :)

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  5. I've overcome part of this as I have been happily married 15 years in May. We had some rough times, but when I "restarted" therapy, I was diagnosed with PTSD and Major Depressive Disorder which caused me to go into full Borderline chaos. My husband started therapy and learned how to manage and take care of himself. This is one of the few relationships that I am firmly attached. However, I still do this with my therapist, but not as much. In the beginning of my first round of therapy, I tested and tested and push and push and pulled and pulled. Thank God he hung in there because it was 7 years of learning how to trust that he was going to just show up.

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  6. My boyfriend of three years has just broken up with me three weeks ago. He has been diagnosed with different metal illnesses and one of this is BPD. I guess my question is, how can I tell if he just broke up with me because he is in his push/pull cycle or does he acutally want to break up with him. I know either way, it is his reality that he does not want to be in a relationship. I guess if he is going through a pull/pull cycle, I will try to tough it out and support him and be there for him. If he really does not want to be in a relationship, I guess I would just have to walk away.

    When I hung out with him this past weekend, I told him I felt like he cleaned me out of his condo but he actually stashed everything of ours/mine in the closet. He told me that he did not throw anything out. I had asked him why and he said something along the lines that he doesn't know what will happen in the future. I think he might be implying that he thinks there is a possibility we would get back together(?).

    He made plans with me to attend a music festival this weekend and seems to be very excited about it. Of course, with me still wanting to be in a relationship with him, I agreed to attend this music festival with him.

    I asked him he hangs out with me because he thinks it is easier for me or if he just feels sorry/bad for me. He said he hangs out with me because he likes it but then I ask him questions and that frustrates him and then he feels conflicted.

    He has told me that he needs me to move on and that he just wants to be alone and he doesnt want to be in a relationship...that he will just end up hurting me and he will never be able to commit to me like I commit to him.

    Help!! I want to stay in this but am I just really being stupid?

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    1. From my experience when I push away it's almost immediately followed by an attempt to pull back. Smaller arguments I'll try to pull back right away, after major break ups it'll be within a couple days and I'll be in a panic until I can get back with them.

      It doesn't sound like there's anything like that here. He may genuinely like you as a person (which is why he didn't just throw out your stuff which would be rude) and want to keep you in his life, but if he's not making an attempt to actually get back together, apologizing profusely, begging you to come back, etc, then his attempts to stay in contact may be genuine platonic affection but not romantic.

      He's told you that he doesn't want to be in a relationship so you should probably take him at his word. He sounds like he cares for you but that doesn't mean it's right for a relationship. Honestly the best thing for you is probably to take some time off from him until you can move on and get over your feelings for him. He's already out. For you to stay in and keep asking him questions is probably why he gets frustrated.

      For someone diagnosed with BPD this actually sounds like a pretty rational and reasonable response from him.

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    2. Thanks for your response.

      I guess I was confused because he told me he didn't want to be in a relationship and then he would tell me that he might change his mind next week. So then I have this glimps of hope.

      He has told me that he feels conflicted, frustrated and like he is suffocating and a lot of it has nothing to do with me or the relationship. He said that he pushes me away because that is what he has always done in the past. He said when he feels like this, he just pushes people away...and that is part of the reason why he doesn't have many friends...and then he feels down because he doesn't have many friends.

      I guess I just want to make sure of everyting because I walk away. I had once told him that he cannot push me away like he did to his friend and that I would be here for him and love him no matter how crazy the rollercoaster is.

      He said that he doesn't usually know if he is doing the push/pull thing until later on and then he regrets it.

      He said with that saying "you don't know what you have until it is gone", he has to play that game. He feels like he has to break up with me to see if he gets that feeling(?).

      Anyways, thanks for listening to me rant and vent.

      I really thought he was in the push/pull cycle and maybe I painted it that way to give myself hope.

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    3. and if I tell him I'm going to let him go, if this is a push/pull cycle, he would want to get close to me again?

      Sorry, I get kind of confused. I have different people telling me different things.

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    4. Yeah it's likely. If you tell him you're going to move on, and actually make the move so it looks like you are... if he starts getting clingy or really needs attention and wants to get even closer again then it would be more push/pull cycle.

      If he let's you move on, then he may just mean what he says.

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    5. Thank you for your help.

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    6. Ultimately the choice is yours and depends on what you're okay with dealing with. It's never just one cycle of push-pull. It will happen over and over, maybe not forever, but it isn't usually just one instance. That can be a lot for people to take emotionally, but if he's someone that you feel is worth it (because we do have many many redeeming qualities as people, BPD aside), then it could be worth the emotional investment for you.

      Either way, it sounds like if you don't take a step back, he won't be able to figure it out. I do understand what he means. I'm usually never sure about someone until I discover how afraid I am of losing them.

      Really the best advice I can give is try not to overthink it, and take it day by day.

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    7. We had a brief conversation last night. He said that now that he is not with me, he doesn't feel frustrated anymore. He is not sure why and he can't pinpoint the reason. I guess it really was the relationship then if he doesn't feel frustrated anymore.

      Thanks for all your responses.

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    8. Not a problem at all. Sometimes things just end. In the end it'll be better for both of you to find someone that is who you really needs. I know it feels horrible now though ::hugs::

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  7. hello Haven...after being envolved with my boyfriend with BPD...things were looking pretty good for the past 3 months, he tells me he needs some time off to get a clear picture, he needs to challenge his day to day fears, it has nothing to do with me he says...now its 5 days and have no news....what do i do?...i have some very deep feelings for this man, but don't know if i should just let it be till he comes back to me...or move on, or at least try...cause i am so deeply hurt...lolita

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    1. I would say it's ok to check in. Tell him you're thinking about him and wonder where he is.

      5 days isn't terribly long. I've taken breaks from people because I believed I need to before that have lasted longer. It's ok to touch base, but don't push. Let him have the space he needs but reassure him that you'll be there when he comes back.

      If he takes much, much to long, than make it clear that you need someone that will be there. You don't deserve to wait around forever. But if you really do care, it's okay to wait a while a give him time to work through what he's working through.

      Relationship are a two way street. It's important, and productive, that he's telling you what he needs. But it's important that he respects what you need as well when you need some reassurance as well.

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    2. thanks for your reply...very kind of you...i spoke to him last thursday...he give me all kinds of excuses why he wasn't calling...one of them was that his therapist prefers that he is alone...then he told that while he was with me i talked too much about my ex...i reassured him with that...so he told me he would call me the next day...he didn't so i made the weekend pass...and i text him tonight telling him i wanted to know if he was ok...and that i was on st.denis street and thinking of him because we use to go there often....he replied that him too was on st. denis street having supper with his son...and also thought about me...and thats the way he ended it...now i am more confused because i don't want to call him back...don't want to bother him....oh by the way i had some clothes at his place and the other day he said he would mail it to me....he is acting very strange....i wonder if he moved on with someone else????...do you think he has remorse and he would even miss me???....don't know what to do....right now i need to consult...its the first time i care so much about a man...thanks Haven just to read me....!!!

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  8. Thank you Haven for sharing your insights. This is exactly what I needed to read and have some degree of understanding. For the past year and a half, I have been trying to pinpoint this very description of behaviour.In one weeks time, I have had three phonecalls; can we start seeing each other again and take it slow, then planning future events and staying over at his new place and then the call a few days later, you and I can't get back together. There is no future with us. Sheer past projected breakups already predicting future outcomes. All breakups have stemmed from jealousy, trust issues and non anger provoking situations. A rollercoaster ride at a non amusement park!

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  9. Hi Haven. I stumbled upon your blog yesterday and can't stop reading. The same way I walked into an Al-ANON(my boyfriend got sober 6 months prior) meeting 8 months ago and realized I am actually an alcoholic myself(6 months sober Aug.6th), yesterday I began a voracious hunt for the reasons why I still think and act the way I do(the inner devils still hanging about), and felt a sad relief that BPD is me.Unquestionably, your empathy, personal stories and candor have soothed, shocked, amused, compelled and inspired me through 5 days of silence from my boyfriend of 3 years.

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  10. He is a recovered alcoholic, almost a year, and is doing well. We were living together, both sober and having every chance to have a healthy relationship, but because of my over-the top overreacting word for word same inner thoughts and outer actions/reactions as you told with your boyfriend, it became clear that I had to move out.I left kicking and screaming literally.Yup, you know what kind of lunatic I acted like.When I'm like that it's not dramatic. It's something beyond a definable emotion. I was getting literally out of my mind. The way I was acting was in no way correlating to what I was feeling. Instead of calmly talking to my bf, I emotionally ruined us. I pushed so far it wasn't far enough in my eyes....never is--sadly. It was watching a physical body writhe and cry being controlled by a mind not foreign to it, but not of it's choosing. I've been inflicting this scenario on my bf for 3 years. I don't want to do it anymore. No physical being would willingly put a BPD mind in the command center! I got sober, yet with not a drop of booze in me for 6 months, my emotional "freak outs" continued on their usual 2-day cycle. 2 good days/2 screaming, aggressive,awful beyond irrational behavior would ensue---torture me and him for 24hours straight(I would not allow either of us to sleep). Some AA's would say I'm a dry drunk. That term is loosely defined as continuing to do the same things that didn't work when drunk-sober. I guess that label probably works too!Bring on the dysfunction! Moreover the clustered group of thoughts/experiences/reactions/obsessive behaviors and mind ruminations define the brain that I have. It's how my brain works and always has. I can accept that my brain is sucky and broken and ill, I just want to believe that there are ways or medicines out there that will allow me to have happy relationships again.

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    1. After i and my lover spent about 4 years together, my boyfriend told me that we can not be together. and already We were making ready ourselves to get married this year and I was very happy and absolutely ready to marry him. this breakup started when he went a little far from the city where I live, a year before. He found a good job out there. And he promised me to come back in one or two years. In the mean time, I found a job around his place (we take it as a good opportunity for us to start living together) but the company I worked for resist to leave me since i am a responsible person in the company. They offered me a very nice salary increment with huge responsibility of work. Then I told to my boyfriend I preferred to stay where I live and work, since, he has not a plan to live there forever. He was very upset at the moment and ignored me totally. I tried to contact him but I can’t. Following so much effort he sends me a message saying “our relationship is over”. I never expected such a thing to happen, so I got sick. Even after so much begging he allow me to see him, but told me the same thing that it is over. I asked him the real reason. He said, you never listened to me, you never gave me credit, and you disrespected me…..and so on. I never noticed such a thing in our relationship before, so I got shocked and couldn’t say a word in front of him. For me our relationship was perfect. And I really love him. I want to be with him. I send so many letters saying I’m sorry, I tried to contact him but there is no reply. i did everything to attract him and live with him forever but nothing was going through. so I needed a help on how to get my lover back. I had the feeling that he still loves me, though he did not say a word. I needed help seriously. i thought it will never possible to get him back and be the happy couple again? so when i read testimonies about prophetharry@ymail.com i contacted him and he told me that my case is a simple one to solve, so after his consultation and casting of his spell my boyfriend emailed me telling me he was sorry for all that he did to me, that he is ready to marry me now, i was shocked, i never believed that prophet harry could make such thing to happen with his spell, today i am getting married to my boyfriend, and i will never forget this spell caster i will always talk about him anywhere i go
      angelina hocombe


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  11. I can see clearly my inappropriate reactions now that I'm sober, but they are not stopping soley because there is no booze in my brain. So I had to figure something more was going on. I've known something was simply not functioning in my brain the way it does in non-BPD people since I was a toddler, I've just never had it spelled out so plainly and clearly!THANK YOU!Obviously, this isn't a happy revelation(addict and probably BPD) but if I can somehow stay alive maybe there is hope that I can find a way to have close healthy relationships with people. I never have. You've given me so much to think about. While I'm so daunted by the total destruction I've caused, tonight(it's 4am and no im not up for work!insomnia every night...yay)I think I want to live. Like you I've never thought of actually killing myself. I was more of the mind of not caring if lived I died. If I drank myself into a coma one night and my heart just stopped beating, well ok...I've always wondered if heaven actually exists and if it's cool like in the movie Ghost?----WTF?! That's my alcoholic mind at it's finest.I do care if I live or die today, but I'm left with an unsoothed BPD mind coping with being asked to leave my home with my boyfriend, and being afforded no compassion, love, support, familiarity or continued commitment from the man I love. Totally alone, living with an overweight, alcoholic, meeting-a-guy obsessed,disliking-being around me because I'm skinny obsessed, dirty, disorganized, smelly, poor-hygenic roommate.I need to make a move to live in a home bursting with good vibes and karma, uncluttered and clean home. It's not about the money. I can afford to live elsewhere. I came here, to this old drinking buddy's(that's all she really ever was)apartment at the last minute when my bf kicked me out. Right now, I feel beyond scared. I feel doom, like surely, I will screw it up again, continue to be miserable and unable to cope and make good decisions. I have so much practice of making bad choices and suffering amazingly unbelievable bad consequences.Yea well it looks like I have to keep this sucky brain because I can't find a coupon for a brain trade or upgrade or something on line.

    But thanks to you Haven I'm going to try to get through this and live and not lose the person I love or myself to this mental disaster, well permanent state of chaos is a better description. I've lived in crisis mode for 25 years.Here's to hope for finding some kind of sustainable relief, respite and unconditional understanding from the people we love. Tonight I'm meditating and praying that the people I love can find a way to internalize how sad I am to own this brain and how very much I want to change so that I can love them back!

    You are flat out a gifted writer. I'm glad you're writing a book. Your blog is the definitive, go-to resource for BPD folks. I was a journalist. I worked writing for a CBS television affiliate for years. You're good! I destroyed that writing opportunity, but just reading about your life and seeing the words come together to affect the world-really is awesome. I just want to encourage you to keep going. You already have something great, and you are inspiring me to at least start journaling again tomorrow.I've so much gratitude for you and I may never meet you. Thank you seems so small....a little prayer I hear every day, so simple. never overused...it can't be I don't think. It applies so sweetly to almost everyone in the world: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.

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  12. Anonymous and Haven, it was great to read your comments on here. I too have been in a very similar relationship to Anonymous where I have been dealing with what I believe is a BPD man. He has not been diagnosed or at least he has been diagnosed but he never told me. Anonymous if you click on my name it will bring you to my blog and it may help you in someway as your relationship is so similar to mine its uncanny. My 'BPD' man told me towards the end of our 6 year relationship he didnt want or need anyone when it came down to it. That of course crushed me because we had been together a long time and towards the end he was just calling me his friend. He told me right from the start he could only sustain a easy going relationship but I fell for him because he was wonderful, attentive, caring and all those things I look for when I seek a mate. But overtime I felt that things were not terrific.

    Initially we had probs in the bedroom dept and he blamed it on 'performance anxiety' telling me it was perhaps just psychological he couldnt perform. Then we got a little help and things improved and we were very happy for a while. But the moment I really needed him (I miscarried) he may have been there for me on Gmail but in person he was not. Any little thing like my grandfathers death, my Mum's breast cancer, moving house etc He really was not there and didnt seem to know how to be there for support.

    OK some men dont do feelings sort of stuff but with him I knew something was different. He is a gifted musician and he would fly into a rage when things didnt go right or he would often talk more about himself than us.... I also spent many a time boosting his ego too.

    Now I am alone. In Feb of this year he dropped a bombshell on me, he told me he had met up with an old school friend. Time will tell with that relationship and we have only had sporadic contact since yet he still keeps my number on his mobile, I am still on his Gmail. Like you I thought we could be forever. I put so much love into this man and within a short time of his news I at the tender age of 38 had an angina attack. My heart suffered really badly and I just thought it was a panic attack at first.

    Maybe one day he may come back and maybe your guy may too but for me I am not going to sit around Anonymous I have to move forward. Yes its hard, its bloody hard but my health is important and more important than waiting around for someone who pushes and pulls you when they want you. How about you tend to you now. Nuture yourself, find some people that have similar interests and get out and discover what is out your front door step. I walk every day to work and although its hard without this man near, I breathe deeply and I enjoy the sunshine, I take time to enjoy what is around me rather than rushing as I did with this guy. I learnt so much from being with him but right now I am learning about me and once you find out about you, you will love yourself more. You will be ready for someone, not necessarily him but you will have more confidence in yourself too. We will survive!! Be strong :-)

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  13. Hi, I just wanted to leave a little post of deep thanks. I only just read this blog post for the first time a few minutes ago, and I'm sitting here shaking and trying not to burst into tears (of both happiness and sadness!).

    FINALLY there's something that's written in just the right way - so that I can understand - that tells me what's going on within me! I'm so familiar with the Push-Pull Cycle, I've had it for as long as I can remember. Naturally, it's been hellish.

    There's a wonderful, caring man in my life who's showing interest in me (and who is a Clinical Psychologist, of all occupations!), and while he's in the perfect place to understand me, I just don't want to screw things up again.

    I'm not expecting miracles, but I do hope that the information that I have gleaned from your post will help me to see what's happening, and try to either ward off some of the cycle, or at least be able to explain to him what's happening to me.

    Thank you. Thank you so much. x

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    1. Hello and welcome. I'm so glad you were able to find the kind of understanding that you've been searching for.

      It really is hellish. I know everyone has different ways of dealing, but for me I do think it's helpful to be able to recognize my behaviors so I can learn to deal with them better in the future. I hope you're able to as well.

      Good luck!

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  14. There was this guy and we got really close, we both really liked each other and he asked me out but before I could answer he suddenly changes his mind and says it "might not work" what's happening??

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    1. Sounds like he has some rejection fears there. Beyond that I can't really say.

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  15. I will forever talk good about Priest of Pyramid because i was childless for 7 years and my husband was no longer coming home for dinner. He normally comes home late on week days and does not even come home during weekends. I met with Priest of Pyramid when i visited Egypt during the death of Muammar Gaddafi because we where amongst the UN agent. He saw me and told me all that i am passing through and i was very surprise because that was our first day of meeting. I visited his temple the next day and he did a bless my womb spell and bring my husband back spell for me. When i return to Hungary the next week, my husband warmly welcome me back home and we where united for good. I became pregnant during December and i am happy to inform the general public that i am now a mother to a baby boy. This is the most happy period of my life and i promise to forever tell everyone about Priest of Pyramid because he is a truthful and honest priest. If anyone need his help, you can contact him through templeofpermanethealing@gmail.com and he is going to help you. Erzsébet

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  16. Hi Haven, I finally found a blog which seems to be helping me in understanding my own situation. There are so many questions I have but don't know where to start. I am in a push/pull friendship/relationship? with someone who shows all of these traits you list. (I feel I am reading all about him)

    I really love him and would never do anything to hurt him, but he HAS hurt me terribly in the past. Confrontation led to total denial on his part,I understand completey why he denied his actions but at the same time I knew he was lying to me which only served to hurt me more.

    As all of the drama unfolded I gathered a deep sense of him being scared that I would hurt him in return (in other words, take some kind of revenge)

    He has hung on to me now for more than the last year, still declaring his deep love for me, but will NOT give me any real time.

    This was very physical in the beginning, but with a few problems which I desperately tried to figure out and understand. We got there in the end, and guess what, he showed his true Narcissitic traits, some times I felt he was actually enjoying hurting me.

    In all of this ( you can imagine the pain I felt) he has kept me there dangling, and only really pulled back at me if he feels I am no longer interested. I have had some really dramatic excuses for his absence, all of them pretty unbelievable, but I have tried to let them pass after studying and trying to understand him.

    I always knew from the start that he was not an honest person, again, I tried to see deeper to find a logic reason.

    I have stayed, waited, hung around, let the excuses go, left him to come back when he feels ready, then I have got very frustrated at his total lack of empathy for my feelings and questioned him only to have him deny his actions, and the cycle begins again.

    What in your opinion is the best way to deal with this? I have tried ignoring him, I can't. I know he needs me and probably confuses this with 'love'

    Reading your post above has made me think differently and put all I have read into a different perspective.

    I have had the usual few days of no contact, and then ' I feel you are getting tired of this, I've been expecting you to say it's over'

    Does this mean he is waiting for me to end it all?

    I am stuck in a vortex with all of this, going round and round with no real relationship, yet he just will not say to me 'it's over for me'

    I don't want to lose him, I want to understand what his fears are and work with them, I would like to at least have some kind of deep friendship with him if he is happy with it, but he just keeps saying, I can't have you for just that! How do I handle it if there is any hope at all. Obviously I don't want to be used as a 'fix' either, and have him there just to ennjoy toying with me.

    What are we supposed to do when we give boundaries but they are ignored and we are left banging our heads against a wall of confusion and hurt,it is nothing short of torture for a non.

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  17. Hi to everyone in here. I have a problem with my boyfriend, which i feel likes the push/pull cycle. He has done it the 3rd time today. He said he was just busy with work and school,and tells me that i dont need him,that i am already done with school and everything. He has been hurt deeply as a child and he said that sometimes,he doesnt care about the stories of people. He would listen to them but remain indifferent. Today he said he wanted space, and says im the most wonderful girl,but he doesnt deserve me. He started to tell me he wanted to remain friends, but with benefits! How horrible! I told him to stand up for his choice,but he asked for time to think about it. 0ne time he said he doesnt wanna let go becoz he feels like hes gonna regret it. He got upset when i told him that we wont talk anymore. He just blasted ''so you really wanted to leave me?'' Then when we ended the call,he asked when we could talk again? He hasnt been diagnosed with it, but i suspect that he is. Im glad to have read this enlightening post... Advice,pls.should i let go,or not? He's so hard to understand.

    God bless to all, and thank you Haven!

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  18. I was crushed when my lover of three years left to be with another woman. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I reached out to the Internet for help.And i saw a testimony of a spell caster who help a girl called michelle and i said let me give it a try so i contact him for help and he cast a love spell for me which i use in getting my love back and now i am a happy woman.Foe what you have done for me,i will not stop to share your goodness to people out there for the good work you are doing.I hope God blesses you as much as you have help me to get my Love back,visit him on ultimatespelltemple@gmail.com,he is the only answer to your problems ultimatespelltemple@gmail.com

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  19. My husband n I av lived 2gedr 4 10yrs but with no kids, we went 2 different temples and magicians , all 2no avail. This caused frustration and my husband leftme alone for another woman. I was so bitter,cried and Ieven tried to commit suicide, it was by this river bank while trying 2get my self drowned that I met this man.I explained all my problems to him and he laughed and told me to go to internet to search for wiseindividualspell@gmail.com that he will help me solve my problem . At first I taught he was some ritualist or another scammer just wanting to take advantage of my helplessness. He cast the spell and in 3days that he told that the spell will start working my husband came back to me begging and not only that I have my love of 10years back, am also 2months pregnant. I just want 2thank wiseindividualspell@gmail.com this , have always believed there are no real spell casters again,but this great man showed me there is power 2whom power has been given. His name is Dr.Zack Balo from
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  20. HOPE HE HELPS YOU OUT.My girlfriend recently ended a 2 year relationship a few weeks ago. She said she wanted more time to do her own thing and not have to worry about

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    spirituallove@hotmail.com from the bottom of my heart. after i received a love spell form prophet after some days my girlfriend realize that it was a mistake for

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  21. I have a friend of 6 yrs who for the second time has pushed me away.The last time was for 8 months and when he came back around it was like nothing happened. This time, he stopped talking to me a month ago, then 2 weeks ago he blocked me from his facebook page, then last week he called me n said i undermine his relationships, talk behind his back and was not happy i talked to his mom even though i am close to his family and he knows his mom n i talk. about a year ago he told me i was like a second mom and he is always quick to tell me how important i am in his life...but then he pulls this crap. He knows he needs help as he has told me in the past and last week he told his mom he is going to talk to someone. he has a girlfriend of a year that supposedly he is in love with but she also had a crush on him for 3 yrs while he was married(he is getting a divorce now). As of Aug his wife would not sign divorce papers which I feel triggered this latest episode. Anyways, does this sound lie BPD or something similar? Do I leave him alone 100% as he wants?

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  22. I contacted Dr. Lee, because someone that I loved the most suddenly left me. I have always been the one that has been hurt. I knew that when I first met him, he was the one I have always been looking for. For some reason he's been holding on to the pain from a past relationship. Dr. Lee so far has been in contact with me every day and has decided that he will take my case. He told me that me and the guy was very well matched and he will help clear his mind from all the negativity. He did all that and now we are now both happy together again. Thank you Dr. Lee. Thank you for choosing my case. Thank you for giving me hope again. Email Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com

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  23. Hi,
    I came upon this and it breaks my heart because its exactly what I went thru for five months with a girl I adored. The push pull thing was insane but I kept coming back to her because I wanted to show her that she could trust me. She went balistic on me and said I wasnt in her heart, and that she doesnt trust her ability to pick a man because of an ex that died suddenly. I walked out. Four days later, she texted me and begged me to come back telling me that I trigger her emotions. All she kept telling me is that our intimacy makes her out of control and that she cant handle it. I went back, but the cycle began. I couldnt take it anymore, so after her gaslighting and bullying I told her I couldnt do it. I walked. She texted me asking me why i was doing this and that she was confused. I told her I couldnt accept her abusive behaivor anymore. I never heard from her again. I dont know if she ever loved me, but her statement that rings in my ear is "I dont like being out of control with my feelings. You could do anything thing you wanted to me and I would still want to be with you" I told her, All I want to do is treat you good. I am dead inside because I miss her so much but reading your blog makes me know it would never be. I guess I just wish Iknew if she ever cared. We were doing so great together and then she just beat my heart physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Your thoughts are appreciated....and just some advice to bpd people It takes time to trust, and it somebody is trustworthy, they will take the time necessary if you could just be honest about it. Sabatoging brings the worst out in people. I did my best but every man has his limits and she just wouldnt stop. One week great one week run away. Thanks for your blog. Its helping me. Just wish I knew what I was dealing with.

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  24. PS Was there anything I could have done different? I gave her space, but as soon as we got close again, she would do what you are saying...picking fights, being mean, needing space. I guess I am killing myself inside because I put my foot down to stop the abuse. She always came back, but when I told her I wont stand for it anymore, she was gone. I wish I could reach out to her, but I told her I wouldnt. Does this ever stop?

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  25. Haven,
    You know you are the only one that says sticking with a BPD is not crazy. I appreciate it. Therapist only interested in helping us to move on because the chaos doesn't stop. The chaos may not stop but how we deal with it can change. Thanks for the encouragement.

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  26. - I am kasha i lives in uk and i was in a serious relationship with my ex guy for three good years.. One day we were in a dinner party, we had a little misunderstanding which lead to a Quarrel and he stood up and left me at the dinner party. i try to call him but he was not picking my calls so after than i contacted my brother and told him about it,my brother so much love me that he had to see him on my behalf,he told my brother that it is over between us.. Then i contacted a friend of mine that had this similar experience and she directed me to one of the spiritual diviner (maduraitemple@yahoo.com).at first i thought it was not going to be possible and i contacted him i was ask to come up with a little requirement,so i did what i was ask to do, after 3 days i was in my office when my ex guy called me and was asking me to forgive him and come back to him. i was very surprise it was like a dream to me,so ever since we have been happily married with one kid my lovely baby(Ceslav)...i wish you the best of luck...

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  27. Alexander SwagnerzizJanuary 21, 2013 at 1:38 AM

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  28. Who the heck are the people here praising withcraft spells for love.withcraft is to be condemned for undermining target's will if no other reason. I have been on receiving side of withcraft and all i can say is... it cannot be love if you must overpower someone at mind to care about you robotically.what s disaster.

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  29. Haven... This article sounds EXACTLY what keeps happening with me and my GF. Just happened today. She's been slowly distancing herself for about a month or so. Then pretty ubruptly (or so it seemed to me) all communications stopped. I sent her a txt and asked for a reply. What I got sounds exactly like things you say here. And a up to 2 months ago (and on/off for YEARS, I've been the love of her life... Talk most days, she wants my company often, etc. now all of a sudden (so it seems), I'm annoying to her (because of how much time we've been spending together. (this happened also about 7 months ago too. BOTH times ironically about the time her answered attempts at contacting with one of her patents SHE hurt occurred! I'm kinda thinking classic transference/projection... "Folks whom I love hate me/ won't talk to me anymore/ abandoned me"... So I'm going to punish the one I love"

    Then when those emotions heal enough, she'll be ready/able to get back to the relationship with me! She said that she simply needs some time and space from me and that when we do resume, need to rethink just how much time we spend together. (AGAIN, she did that EXACT same thing to me those many months ago)

    Oh and of course she won't admit that BPD, BP, or some other emotional "disorder" is at play. She's just expressing what she really needs.

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  30. Just today I realized that I have been sabotaging my marriage for years. Yesterday was a celebration that we both looked forward to, after quite a while of having issues. I woke up and sabotaged the whole day and we both moped around until I went to bed first. I went to the internet and looked up the word relationship sabotage. We've been doing it to each other! Time to revisit my therapist and get to the bottom of this...I think I know where the abandonment fears came from in my childhood. And that's who I'm taking care of...ME, until I get to the bottom of this.

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  31. I have been seeing my boyfriend for two years now we both met in the pub and we both were alcholics. During the first year he became violent and beat me up three times and head butted me and threatended me with a knife. Since the last beating we decided to give upvdrnk and have been sober for over a year and there have been no further incidents. I keep on going over and over in my mind the horrific events and if that will happen again in the future. He wants to marry me and have children with me but I cant trust him yet. Am I doing the push pull thing because of my bpd or am I generally scared. I have just told him I want to split as I cant live with this indisisivness but I feel that I will miss him and his financial help when hes gone. He has helped me through do much however I cant get close is it because of his violent pass or my bpd? Please help I have important decissions to make and make the right ones. I sometimes can want all he iffers and feel really happy but then feel so sad and scared and dont wsnt him in myvlife

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    1. Oh darlin, this is not Push-Pull. This is abuse. You have general cause to be frightened. He's already beat you 3 times, the odds that he will never do it again??? Don't seem good to me. It's very common to still have feelings for someone that abuses you. You probably will miss him... but that doesn't mean you don't deserve to be treated well, it doesn't mean you shouldn't want a life and a relationship without fear. You deserve someone that does not physically abuse you. So even if you do miss him, it doesn't mean it was the wrong decision to leave. When you find someone that treats you well, you'll have your proof.

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  32. My name is Mary Eastwood I am married with two wonderful kid and I am a Canadian.my husband and I have been married for 10years and we were such a big happy family.But he started changing " for the worse " he looked at me like a stranger and he treat the kid like they weren't even his.I knew at ones that he had another woman.I hired a private investigator that cost me a lot.It turned out that I was right all along.I couldn't just believe it so I confronted him with the pictures I had but he denied it bluntly.He said she just just a girl he has some working project with and foolish of me I so believed him.But on bad day I caught them red handed at that moment my heart stopped for a while as I bust into tears.I was furious that I hit the whore so hard before I could ask why with my shakily voice my husband hit me so hard.I have never seen in his eyes so much hate before.I fell to ground crying my heart out it was so hurtful.He was no longer living with and our kids I still remember his words " keep the house and your sick kids "I wanted to drop dead but my lovely kids gave me strength to fight for what was my.He was asking for a divorce but I wanted to my husband back so I had to delay the process to buy time for myself so as to figure out a way to get him back.On a good day "god bless the internet "I stumbled on an ad of how a girl got her boyfriend back after he broke up with because of some girl with the help of a witch doctor or a spell caster at first I told myself it's scam but as more pressure from my husband lawyer increased I became desperate and gave it try .I contacted him with his email address she left in her ad.his mail were so had to his English was not so clear but he helped me any way off-course not for free he charged me and I pay every cent. thank the stars it work.I paid for the material which he used for the rite And when he claimed to have finished whatever he was doing I paid for his services.He sent me a hand written enchanting words and asked me to recite morning and night for seven day " as he said seven is the perfect number "I did just that but at first nothing happened out of frustration I sent all kind of insult to him even calling a low life scam.He said he could destroy the entire thing he did but he wouldn't so I can see how wrong I was.he said those enchanting words he gave me will make my husband see the demon in his new lover and its going to make him hurt badly.just a week later my husband was sued for physical abuse on his so called New girlfriend.he gave a black eye and didn't show remorse in the court house.just what the spell-caster had said " he would hurt her badly "he literally confessed that he hated her all of a sudden.All the witch doctor had did worked.Thank the stars she only wanted him to stay away from her so the judge asked him to pay $5000.after all this is trouble my looking husband came back asking for my forgiveness and I did without thinking it was all I wanted for him to come back to me and the kid.My husband and i have never since this kind of happiness before.He his as faithful to me and as a saint.I know cos I hear his friends say "what happened to the fun guy we know "so if you have a similar problem just contact odiaspirituallovespell@gmail.com bet you this one is not fake.You can only choose to believe me cos i haven't tried this spell thing before and now that I have i can only happily share with who ever is reading this. odiaspirituallovespell@gmail.com

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  33. This is just my life story.It meant seem selfish of me but those who are in the same situation as i was will understand me.My name is Robert Hamstrung and i live in Belgium.i fell in love with the love of my life since junior high school her name is Katrine Young, no matter how i tried to make her see i was in love with her, it all was a waste of time.She was in love with a guy who does not deserve her love for any reason i mean he was a cheat and scum bag he never made her happy.All the time she was married to the guy she always seem so unhappy cos he was never at home always hang out with his scum friends and even get wasted and lead to drunk sex.She was so aware of fact he cheats on her with cheap girls.Watching her like that was so hard.I tried all i could to make her understand that there was some on who actually care for her but it never happened.The worst happened she found out that the man she call her husband was married to woman living in Charlerio.This was the saddest moment of her life he wasn't ready to end things up with the other woman cos he claimed that she is the mother his children he don't want to miss out from the life of his children.Katrine was not lucky enough to be be carrying his offspring and that was something i loved so much cos Katrine is too special to carry the child of a monster.Off course he ask for a divorce but she was not going to give it to help i talked to her, her parent did the same but she claimed to be in love and when in love you fight for those you love.This words she said that day made me took the action i took to get her to myself with the help of a spell from BOLOGO of chiefpriestofogunshrine@gmail.com.I mean she was in pain and was depressed she start taking pain killer even made matter worse and made everything more complicated but i was able to make her quit.Even after all this problem she had cos of that guy she still wanted him back but he didn't want anything to do with her.I decided that she was too to good to suffer for that scum bag.When i first contacted BOLOGO i told him how Katrine married her husband and how unhappy she has been and how she doesn't want me even when she knows i love her so much.He told me that i was going to get some material to push through with the spell he was going to help me with.I asked him to get the material for me instead so i send Bologo the money to do that.All he kept telling me was all my heart desires will e met her and it was.I wish i knew what he did but it made Katrine love me more that her last husband i know cos i was so in love as much as she was to me it was so obvious Bologo killed the pain Katrine and i felt and made the love between us strong.Thanks to Bologo we are getting married soon.I can tell you that all his spell are strong and doesn't wear off.contact use to be ogunshrine@gmail.com but its been changed to chiefpriestofogunshrine@gmail.com

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  34. It sounds like a phobia because it isn't terribly logical but an extreme fear. but deep down, as any human being you crave love. So you have a phobia of love but also a deep desire for love, and because there is conflict, you bounce back and forth. well, people can get over phobias!

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  35. I have been dia I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder post traumatic stress disorder and borderline personality disorder and I'm currently on disability for it I've struggled so hard with relationships I came across this blog in couldn't believe how unbelievably familiar these previous stories of their ex or current boyfriend girlfriend pushing and pulling them away wanting distance wanting them back...etc I do the same thing and I've actually convinced myself and pride myself on the fact that I can play mind games with people but in all reality I'm so sad and lonely I can't bear it. almost like I don't know how to be sweet I feel all dirty or uncomfortable when I feel things are going well in a relationship.. completely sabotaging everything we've built for absolutely no reason. I know in the back of my mind that they will get tired of that s and I will move on to someone else and repeat the same cycle over and over again. I'm currently with this great guy I really like and don't know how to be close when we start having sex and it feels good I'll stop him. like I'm scared of the possibility of him getting me off because only 1 other has ever done that that I've allowed to go to that level. and I'm so obsessed with the guy and he loves me but I left him. is this making sense? What can I do to reassure myself it's okay to feel. I know getting hurt can't possibly over ride not even feeling at all. I'm so programs to manipulate and hurt em play with other people's heads it's involuntary. I feel like I am a horrible person that doesn't deserve love but at times I feel that I am or were they then all others because I can get a lot of different mental be involved with me and keep them holding on until I get psycho and start with these bipolar symptoms. they think I'm a challenge and I I am worth the battle. I guess it makes them feel special that I'm with them because they see how many other guys want me. in all honesty I got off what may and bad and if I don't have any kind of feelings towards him I can totally please him and fake the entire retain and have him absolutely obsessed with me and I love this I fucking love it. if I have feelings for the man I can't even get past 5 minutes of it feeling good or even maybe if we're kissing and I start to feel an intense feeling I'll pull away I'll make him feel like he's doing something wrong. when really he's doing everything exactly right. ever since I can remember maybe starting at age 6 I have than a riding person off of chaos. Probably bend to the psych ward over 10 maybe 15 different occasions. I swear I'm so delusional I feel bad I don't have this disorder or any disorder that they diagnose me wet I feel that I'm actually tracking them into thinking that I have it and really I'm so confused I don't know if I've talked myself into really having it or if you know that I was born with this? Please give me some advice to help me not sabotage this relationship I know if he has in the past week been over 5 * and each time I have left him Feeling like a complete failure because I stop in the middle of getting intimate in the bedroom. everything turns off words and I feel like well I might as well go ahead and break up with them because it's just too much weird stuff when everything was going right to hours before. am I delusional or do you think I have this disorder. I can tell you I've been with over 400 men in my life and can only remember maybe 5 of the experiences in detail. almost as if my brain is putting a mental block on my ability to feel these senses um reactions are just not capable of you know coming out of Me. please help!!!

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    1. Hello,I'm kim from Australia i want to thank dr khakani for what he has done for me in my life,After my lover left me for over 5years without no notice i was so frustrated and confused i never knew what to do until i got in contact with my best friend in usa called Nicole, After she told me the great work of dr khakani how people talk good about him on radio stations and internet so she gave me the contact in contacting dr khakani, Then which i did i called dr khakani and told him how my lover left me for over 5years,He told me just to be happy that i will have him back to my arms within 48hours,i was like is this real,So mean while i had fate in dr khakani that he would bring back my lover,Really before the 48hours i got a call from a man who has left me for over 5years begging me for forgiveness,Which i did and he bought me a nice car, And now we are together and he love's me more than anything on this earth and can't do with seeing me a day am so happy and am bringing this great news to the people of australia, That there is a man who can bring back happiness to there life am happy today with the one i love please you can contact him for help on his private mail khakanibestsolutioncentre12@ gmail. com or cell Number +2348062216903

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  36. Sorry my spelling was in exactly the greatest on what I was trying to get across. I feel that I don't have this disorder that I've actually been pricing myself on tracking these doctors into thinking I am when really I feel I'm not. I'm on disability for it and um you know sometimes I will withdraw from the world for say 5 or 7 days and I'll expect everything to be fine and be the same it was when I left it and I expect anyone close to me to just understand and deal with it. if not I'll just find another you you're not hard to replace. when really it's all may I have a Taj what they have to offer their qualities that I don't cause ass scare me because I don't know how to give them what they give me or could give me back. it's so sick that I find pleasure in hurting people playing mind games with them and I guess really in my head I don't get pleasure from it but I talk myself into the fact I guess is a coping mechanism into the fact that um there's gotta be some reason I'm doing this so I I don't know. I really can't ruin this relationship how do I stop myself from pulling away when the sexes feeling good. when I'm in bed with a man that I'm not feeling a connection with I can please him and put on the bass performance ever and I can't even get close to that when I feel something for someone. I've actually gone as far as asking this guy to pretend he was a client of mine because I used to do you know I'm not gonna lie I have had men pay all my rents my cars um just take care of me and I've use sex to do it. so in order to not lose what I want to give this guy I try to put it in my head he's just another client so I'm pleasing him but I'm not pleasing myself. and to ask such an absurd thing of him going back to they well I'll just envision you as a client because I'm in barrist I can't even get through 1 minute of a connection because I'm so scared is feeling good. same goes for all other areas of my relationships. I'm sorry for freaking mind warp I don't know how I feel anymore I don't know why I do the things that I do. but at the same time I see how I've done them and I know what I'm doing but I just don't get why do it and I can't stop. please help me be able to feel intimate feelings without being like I've done something that's wrong or isn't is it normal or I don't deserve I don't know. how how how?? When I go to see a psychiatrist and I've seen so many I will have them so confused and not understanding my story line when they ask me questions because in my had things are shadow In N Out of what really did happen or what was I thinking I was making happening so I'm just kind of clustered all Over the place because in my head maybe I was wine at the time but I really did convince myself it was the truth So how have I track my own mental state into not knowing if I'm really being honest or not anymore.. okay I'll stop there I'm going on and on and not making sense again lol. please help me be able to feel without resisting!

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  37. Good day every one.

    I want to share my testimony to you all which i believe you can still try your best to give a testimony like this so i was married to halen sergey at first will both love each other but short time he started a new behavior which i cannot even explain to any one then i keep it to my self hopping one day he will change for good no way he did not change so i was in pain every day don't no what to do on till one day when a friend of mine visited me in my office she met me crying then she was asking me what is going on i try to be cam but i could not then i open up to her telling me there is a way out which i will do before he left me with my kids i look up and not knowing what to do then i ask her to tell me. shortly she open up to me and say there is a man called SAMURA he is a spirit man he can do it with in three days then i look an said okay i will try my best to contact him four days later, my husband did not come home i called his phone switch off then i try my possible best i did not hear from him so i began to look for one way for a help so i remember my friend told me about one man call SAMURA i quickly run to my friend asking her if she still have samura contact then she gave it to me that was how i contacted this great man of spirit he did it for me so quick so now i can now control my husband in any thing even i can tell him that i don't want him outside today he will not. Now i have a happy family so via email SAMURATELLERSPELL100@YAHOO.COM or +2347030410643 he will do it for you as he did for me

    halen sergey

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  38. Imagine for a minute you are so in love with this one girl and you believed that she was also in love, she said yes to your proposer and on your wedding day you catch her having sex with your best friend and still she tells you to your face that she never loved you, and then file for a divorce then move in with your suppose to be best friend.This is all that happen to me.It seem like a story but believe this is my life story.My name is Charle William i am a paramedic and live in Dublin, Ireland.My marriage ought to be the best and i ought to be the proudest man that day but Kelly Cater made a fool out of me.I never thought she would even think of cheating on me on my wedding day with the man i consider to be my best friend.It all happened during our wedding reception.I caught them in the bathroom i would say how but it too embarrassing for me to speak about.I was so mad that i punched the crap out of him but she kept screaming over and over again live him i love him please don't kill him.Hearing those word was like a knife piercing through my heart i was like you married to me and you tell me that you love him.As i could recall it was our wedding day how can this be happen.She call off the wedding party herself telling ever one that the marriage was over.I was broken not knowing what to do about it.She didn't stop seeing him,i could not imagine the girl who was so excited about getting married could just walk out of one like that without thinking twice about it and to make things worse she hooked up with my best friend.All this was all i could think of but still, i was madly in love with a girl who cheated on me with my best friend.I had scarified too much to let go, i was not going to let Joe that is my suppose to be best friend to make a fool out of me.She refused to have contact with me i don't know why and that made my plan even harder.I thought the internet would be of great help i tried all ways to get her back still it wasn't yielding any result.Non made her to what to have contact with me.I stumbled on an article on how to make your ex fall in love with again using a spell.At first i was that is so impossible but still something inside made me to contact a spell caster BOLOGO. I wasn't sure what i was doing, i just thought i should do something.I made it clear what i wanted him to do for me.He asked me to get some material which i got but could not get them over to him.I had to send him the money to get the materials.He told me he was going to send me some enchanting word that those enchantment will control her emotion and make she fall in love with me all over again.All what he told me will happen fell into place just as he said.I had the love of my life back in my hands and there was nothing Joe could do but to back off cos it was clear that she wanting nothing to do with him. BOLOGO is that one spell caster you can give your thrust to.Need to contact him use chiefpriestofogunshrine@gmail.com

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  39. I was heartbroken that my husband moved in with another woman so I had a spell to bring him back home and stop the affair he had with her. In just 1 week he left her and went to live at the motel. He called to say so and get news of the kids. The discussion was pleasant, as if he was changing to become the man I knew when we got married. It was exactly as you said…. Now he’s back home and is absolutely crazy about me. I am so thrilled by this spell that I cant find the right words to say how I feel right now. All I can decently say is that you changed my life priest Oduma and saved the most important thing in my life: my family thanks to you sir priest Oduma for bring back my husband home, if you passing true the same problems in your home contact priest Oduma for help @ Spellofsolution@gmail.com or call him on his cell phone +2348153363047

    kim frank

    country: canadaI was heartbroken that my husband moved in with another woman so I had a spell to bring him back home and stop the affair he had with her. In just 1 week he left her and went to live at the motel. He called to say so and get news of the kids. The discussion was pleasant, as if he was changing to become the man I knew when we got married. It was exactly as you said…. Now he’s back home and is absolutely crazy about me. I am so thrilled by this spell that I cant find the right words to say how I feel right now. All I can decently say is that you changed my life priest Oduma and saved the most important thing in my life: my family thanks to you sir priest Oduma for bring back my husband home, if you passing true the same problems in your home contact priest Oduma for help @ Spellofsolution@gmail.com or call him on his cell phone +2348153363047

    kim frank

    country: canada

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  40. I've spent the whole day sending apologies to those I hurt when drunk the other day. I have never felt such shame, remorse, sadness or regret. It's prob because I'm allowing myself to get close to a group of people. My emotional wall (yes, the result of child abuse & having no one to trust, having to be on my guard for as long as I can remember)is crumbling and it's scary. I was really vicious to my friends, as if the devil had got into me. I really hurt them. I'm 61 now, I want to break the cycle. They have accepted my apologies. I'm not gonna drink again. All this bullying ran in the family: incest, child abuse, alcoholism, suicide, sex addiction. I've made it my life's work to be different. It's really hard but I am determined. I want friends, I want to treat them properly, respect them.

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  41. My name is John Morrison, my family and i live together live in Canada.It was after seven years i got to discover that my wife was unfaithful to me.I didn't know what was going on at first but as she got deep in the affair with her new lover, i felt that our marriage was on the rocks.I notice that she no longer light up when i touch her or kiss her in her neck and her chest cos she really liked it when i did that, she also usually get naked in front of me but when she started seeing that guy she stopped it.I remember asking her if i have done anything that makes her feel irritated when i am around her then she gives silly excuses that she has been feeling stressed up and that she need space for a while.I know when you are been asked for space its usually because there is something fishy is going on.I hired a private investigator to help find out what was going on.And in a week time he brought me prove that my wife that i have lived with for seven straight year is cheating on me with her high school lover.I had picture of her walking out a of a restaurant with him and many other photo of them kissing in public like she will never be caught by someone that knows she is my wife.I asked myself, even when we had a daughter together she could this to me.That same night i showed her the pictures that i got from my private investigator.She didn't look at it before saying, that she is seeing someone and she know that i just found out about it.Then she said that she is in love with him.At that moment, i didn't know if to kill myself or to kill her but the button line is that if i was going to kill anyone it was going to be me cos i was so much in love with her to even think of thinking to hurt her.As time when on she asked for a divorce and got it and even got custody of our daughter and i was all alone by myself.I just couldn't get my mind off my wife and my daughter all i could think about was getting them back and we living as every family should.For a year i tried all i could to get her back with the help of my seven year old daughter.Even at that all effect was in vain, i used the help of her friend but turned out all bad.I know most people don't believe in spell casting but believe me this was my last option and the result i most say was impressive.And i know it difficult to believe but A SPELL CASTER BOLOGO really made my life much better cos he gave me my family back.He didn't ask me to pay for what he did for me all i was to do, was to provide the materials for the spell and believe that he had the power to help me.Like he said, he was going to do something that will make her reset her love and affection for me just as it has always been.My wife told me she woke up and realized that she should have never left me that i am all she needs.To make thing clear, her life with her high school lover was great before BOLOGO casted the spell they had no disagreement on anything.The guy said it himself that why she broke up with him is something he can not explain just that she woke up on the same bad with him after a very romantic night saying she is breaking up with him for no reason at all.Only BOLOGO can do such a thing contact him to solve your problem with his email chiefpriestofogunshrine@gmail.com

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  42. This description of the push/pull describes how I feel perfectly :( So thank you for that. I'm wondering if I'm doing it at the moment. Basically i met a guy in October and we dated for a while then went to being friends as thats all he wanted at that time. Anyway last week we were out and he dropped the bombshell that he's "completely in love with me" and has "never felt like this about anyone before." He also asked me to be his girlfriend. Having felt the same about him the whole time i said yes and he has been amazingly attentive ever since. I love this guy to pieces. He's the nicest guy I have ever known. He's the most interesting and funny, not to mention hot. So I should feel nothing but joy at the moment. However, all i feel is suspicion. why did he suddenly feel this? does he even want this? does he just pity me? And tonight talking on the phone I asked him if he was staying over on Saturday after plans we have together. He said he didn't know. And now suddenly I want to tell him to piss off since then. I have issues with uncertainty which I'm sure you're all aware is common with BPD. I have been in therapy for BPD for the past year and this is my first relationship since and my mentalisation based therapy is on a break for Easter so I have nowhere to talk about this and am scared I'm going to push away the best person to ever happen to me. I know it's completely irrational to feel so annoyed just because he said he didn't know yet whether he was staying over but I am just dying to text him and break up. Thankfully I do have a bit more impulse control than I used to.

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  43. Hi, I'm a female and I've never been in a relationship not because I don't believe in it or love. It's just that I've never thought about it because I've been busy raising my siblings and taking care of my family. Family and friends mean a lot to me their first. Im starting to look after myself and do things for me(im working on it lol) I had no idea I would fall for someone especially an other female. We're good friends we understand each other and know how we feel before hand. I can't believe it but I told her how I feel and she feels that I can't seem to be able to open up to her but I feel like im trying she knows I like her when no one else knows that I do. I really care about her are her happiness my gut feelings tell me she cares too but she's stopping herself I don't know why. I try talking to her but she avoids it. What should I do?

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  44. Oh. My. Freaking. God. I have never heard anyone describe what I do in relationships *so perfectly*. I have BPD and it's so awesome to hear it described from the borderline's point of view in a compassionate way vs. from the "victim's" point of view. I'm excited to read the rest of your blog! Judging from all the comments, there are a lot of us out there. Thanks for providing a safe place for us when there is so much out there on the internet basically saying that we're evil, hopeless, and will never recover. I say, bullshit.

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  45. OK, this is what is happening with my co-worker. She wants to be friends, but she back-stabs and sabotages me (tries, everybody is on to her.) There will be a fight, then she will be uber friendly to the point of ridiculousness, apologizing constantly for nothing, that will pass, she'll be sort of normal, and can be very high functioning, then eventually, she'll start abusing me again, the cycle repeats. I caught in one of your posts, "major psychological disorder." Oh. I thought that might be the case. But she's also been isolating more and more the last couple years. Stopped going to church, has only one friend who keeps contact with her on purpose. My new manager has better communication skills, and is on top of this situation, but we're not sure what to do with, around, about her. The manager calls her on bad behavior whenever she sees it, and keeps on doing that. I will too, depending on the situation at work. But I'm at a stand.

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  46. My Name is Engr Hanson.I will want to share my testimony to all the people in this forum cos i never thought i will have my girlfriend back and she means the world to me..The girl i want to get marry to left me 2 weeks to our weeding for another man, When i called her she never picked my calls,She deleted me on her face-book and she changed her face book status from married to Single. when i went to her place of work she told her boss she do not want to see me anymore.I lost my job as a result of this because i was no longer myself, My life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life. I tried all i could to have her back, But all my effort did not work out until i met a Man when i travel to U.S.A to execute some business that i have been developing some years back. I told him my problem and all that i have passed through in getting my lover back and how i lost my job as a result of this same issue. He told me that i should wipe my tears that he is going to help me.I don't believe that in the first place.He said he will introduce me to a spell caster that we help me cast a spell on my lover and will make her to love me more than before,Really this was done and the spell caster assured me that in the next 24 hours time that my lover is going to be calling me on phone.Then i travel back to UK the following day and i called him when i got home and he said he's busy casting the spells and he has bought all the materials needed for the spells,He said i am going see positive results in the next 24 hours that is Thursday. To my greatest surprise My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:35pm on Thursday and apologies for all she had done. she said,she never knew what she's doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional and she promised not to do that again.It was like am dream when i herd that from her and when we ended the call,I called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven't seen anything yet,He said i will also get my job back in 3 days time.And when its was Monday very early in the morning,They called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Tuesday and they will compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working. My life is back into a very good shape,I have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kids and i have my job back too.This man is really powerful.If we have up to 10 people like him in the world, The world would have been a better place,He has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now. Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting the man for help.You can email him on: great.spellcaster@yahoo.com i cant give out his number cos he told me he don't want to be disturbed by many people across the world. He said his email is okay and he will replied to any email Asap and when you must have contact he can then give out his phone number to whom that will want to speak with him on phone..hope he helped you out too.Good Luck as you email him on the following email: great.spellcaster@yahoo.com

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  47. My Name is JANE.I will love to share my testimony to all the people in the forum cos i never thought i will have my girlfriend back and she means so much to me..The girl i want to get marry to left me 4 weeks to our wedding for another man..,When i called her she never picked my calls,She deleted me on her facebook and she changed her facebook status from married to Single...when i went to her to her place of work she told her boss she never want to see me..I lost my job as a result of this cos i cant get myself anymore,my life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life...I tried all i could do to have her back to all did not work out until i met a Man when i Travel to Africa to execute some business have been developing some years back..I told him my problem and all have passed through in getting her back and how i lost my job...he told me he gonna help me...i don't believe that in the first place.but he swore he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when i heard that from him..he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..then i travel back to US the following day and i called him when i got home and he said he's busy casting those spells and he has bought all the materials needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 2 days that is Thursday...My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:35pm on Thursday and apologies for all she had done ..she said,she never knew what she's doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional and she promised not to do that again.it was like am dreaming when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven't seen anything yet... he said i will also get my job back in 3 days time..and when its Sunday,they called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Monday and they gonna compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working..My life is back into shape,i have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kids and i have my job back too.This man is really powerful..if we have up to 20 people like him in the world,the world would have been a better place..he has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now..Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting the man for help.you can mail him to Lavenderlovespell@gmail.com I cant give out his number cos he told me he don't want to be disturbed by many people across the world..he said his email is okay and he' will replied to any emails asap..hope he helped u out too..good luck:Lavenderlovespell@gmail.com.ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: Lavenderlovespell@gmail.com

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